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[neoeno]

Deleting pieces doesn't seem to work.  I'm really not trying to post the same thing multiple times.   When I tried to post the first time, I got an error message, and when I managed to get one posted, the other showed up on the 'recent' list, and attempts to delete one or both have been unsuccessful. 

I quit the internet, guys.

Ah.. that would explain why neither are in the database anymore...

She smoked with the kind of languid, easy gesture characteristic to people of her class. What she did was only smoking in the sense that wine tasting was drinking. The basic idea was the same, but the actual execution was so different as to leave the perpetrators of the latter feeling combatively inferior, somehow demeaned beyond what their working class self-righteousness could compensate for.
Watching her smoke was more sexual than actual intercourse could ever be, with feelings that started - somewhere, and reached tingling through your fingertips, running lightly over your breasts, your thighs, and down the small of your back. Her lips quirked only slightly upwards, on the left side, to accommodate her cigarette. When she exhaled, they moved open in a manner that suggested that they were capable of inspiring sensations that, you would realize only later, in the safety of your own hotel room, no human was capable of feeling, and which you lacked even the proper body parts to experience.
The way she stubbed out her cigarette, however, was distinctly proletarian. The way the front legs of her chair hit the floor as her lean, violent body crossed the space to the ash tray reminded you that the magical lips were chewed, and the hand that now stubbed out a cheap, dark cigarette were broad, square, and red. Fortunately, she was a chain smoker.

<-- Just to make sure it's saved /somewhere/.

[AEtherLightning]

i really liked that and tried to comment but when i commented it crashed my net too...

put it back up!

also three more things...

on your user page, i don't like the title "my IF1 description was" the website changed but why should our description change??? it should just say "my description" or summat unless you have a special IF2 description, in which case it doesn't make sense to have two descriptions...

what is "theive" on other ppls pages, all it does is bring up my user info...

and i can't really see the text cursor that well in the typing boxes... its skinny light grey on dark grey, could there be more contrast added to this?


also can't add a picture to my acct. fix it please, i needs my litening

[neoeno]

It clears the cache on deletion now, so there should be no more ghost pieces. They'll still appear in the piece list for a time, for efficiency reasons, but the links won't go anywhere.

Textboxes have been made lighter and the font made (I think) darker.

Regarding userpages, I direct you to http://indyfluency.com/if2news/:

Userpages: This is another of my favourite ideas. You might be getting the picture that I'm making things difficult rather than easy. I derive this from the idea of gameplay, it's the difficulty that makes things fun and it's what a lot of communities are built on. Anyway, userpages for IF1 users are preset with their previous userpage and their IF1 stats, as well as some stats in a box. The actual info on the userpage is built by answering preset 'questions'. You can't look up questions, only discover them on other people's userpages. I think this is pretty fun, and should be more useful for building up a profile than just writing down any old thing.

[AEtherLightning]

It clears the cache on deletion now, so there should be no more ghost pieces. They'll still appear in the piece list for a time, for efficiency reasons, but the links won't go anywhere.

Textboxes have been made lighter and the font made (I think) darker.

Regarding userpages, I direct you to http://indyfluency.com/if2news/:

Userpages: This is another of my favourite ideas. You might be getting the picture that I'm making things difficult rather than easy. I derive this from the idea of gameplay, it's the difficulty that makes things fun and it's what a lot of communities are built on. Anyway, userpages for IF1 users are preset with their previous userpage and their IF1 stats, as well as some stats in a box. The actual info on the userpage is built by answering preset 'questions'. You can't look up questions, only discover them on other people's userpages. I think this is pretty fun, and should be more useful for building up a profile than just writing down any old thing.

yeah i saw that... but i tried making a change to "answer a question" and all it did was erase my previous stats, i mean i remember i was 78 + 5 A and 0 minus but i'm just wondering what was supposed to happen

I also think that IF stats should be a static thing... non editable...

and yes, the text blinky cursor is easier to see

[neoeno]

yeah i saw that... but i tried making a change to "answer a question" and all it did was erase my previous stats, i mean i remember i was 78 + 5 A and 0 minus but i'm just wondering what was supposed to happen

I also think that IF stats should be a static thing... non editable...

and yes, the text blinky cursor is easier to see

Hmm.. it shouldn't actually get rid of anything without provocation... I can't seem to reproduce that problem. What exactly did you do?

Well at the moment thieving is kinda useless 'cause everyone has the same questions. When things calm down a tad, I'll add in some questions...

[AEtherLightning]

yeah i saw that... but i tried making a change to "answer a question" and all it did was erase my previous stats, i mean i remember i was 78 + 5 A and 0 minus but i'm just wondering what was supposed to happen

I also think that IF stats should be a static thing... non editable...

and yes, the text blinky cursor is easier to see

Hmm.. it shouldn't actually get rid of anything without provocation... I can't seem to reproduce that problem. What exactly did you do?

Well at the moment thieving is kinda useless 'cause everyone has the same questions. When things calm down a tad, I'll add in some questions...

i tried to thieve ITCs user stats... then i typed in something, and it saved over my original user stats...

i get what you are saying now though... there will be a bunch of random questions, and you can get new questions for your user page by thieving them from other people's

but yeah i really would like to see IF1 stats become non changable... just as a record keeping system... and the description title still bothers me...

[neoeno]

The idea is that the questions/answers replace the description of IF1. It would be possible to just write a description out straight, and people will still do this, but I think it's generally more interesting to see how people answer questions that they wouldn't ask themselves? Having a 'My Description' question kinda goes against that, so the My IF1 Description section is more a compromise between importing from IF1 and the concept of the userpage.

When I next make a more substantial update, that question will be updated with the proper values and made constant.

[AEtherLightning]

The idea is that the questions/answers replace the description of IF1. It would be possible to just write a description out straight, and people will still do this, but I think it's generally more interesting to see how people answer questions that they wouldn't ask themselves? Having a 'My Description' question kinda goes against that, so the My IF1 Description section is more a compromise between importing from IF1 and the concept of the userpage.

When I next make a more substantial update, that question will be updated with the proper values and made constant.

Maybe you can call it something like "Who are you in a nutshell?" leaving people to say what they want about themselves there and then having all the questions be fun and silly additions... I think removing the basic description completely kills the creativity a little bit... people might wanna say stuff about themselves that aren't related to the questions... and they might not find a question category that it makes sense to mention this stuff in... what you could do is limit the space people have for their generic description... make it like 200 words max or something...

[neoeno]

The idea is that the questions/answers replace the description of IF1. It would be possible to just write a description out straight, and people will still do this, but I think it's generally more interesting to see how people answer questions that they wouldn't ask themselves? Having a 'My Description' question kinda goes against that, so the My IF1 Description section is more a compromise between importing from IF1 and the concept of the userpage.

When I next make a more substantial update, that question will be updated with the proper values and made constant.

Maybe you can call it something like "Who are you in a nutshell?" leaving people to say what they want about themselves there and then having all the questions be fun and silly additions... I think removing the basic description completely kills the creativity a little bit... people might wanna say stuff about themselves that aren't related to the questions... and they might not find a question category that it makes sense to mention this stuff in... what you could do is limit the space people have for their generic description... make it like 200 words max or something...

Mmm, I disagree, I'd say creativity is quite often borne from restrictions. In any case, a sufficiently vague but prompting question will allow people to say whatever they like. Anyway, there, no doubt, will exist a 'describe yourself' question at some point, but for purity's sake it won't be me creating it. I'm still considering how to inject new questions in, and you'll probably see that come into existence in the next few weeks...

[AEtherLightning]

I posted a new piece and it wont show up... not on my user page and not on the recent pieces list

whered it go?

nevermind its there now

[burning_sands]

i saw it!

it was on my notifications board thing

[AEtherLightning]

still not on my user page though... weird

[neoeno]

It will be now.

Today's spate of problems have been to do with caching.

Just about whenever anything is generated (a piece, any of the side-boxes, a series, userpages), a copy of what is generated is put in a folder. When someone visits that page again, it checks to see if there is a copy there, and if there is returns that rather than going through the calculations. This makes things a lot faster.

The problem is when the information changes and becomes out of date. What's supposed to happen is whenever anyone does anything that updates the information, the relevant cached copies are erased.

Except it's difficult to keep track of all the pages that need updating on various events. So I forget some So some things go odd...

[Bowers]

How does the "average rating" system work on new pieces and how long does it take to give you one?

[burning_sands]

i like the rating with comments and whatnot .... i need to join the posting frenzy