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Very serious heavy book discussion thing.
« on: July 09, 2008, 10:17:36 am »
Right, so I've realised that in order to succeed in college doing English
I really should READ
And not just paperbacks about romance and contemporary entertaining genres
I need to stack up on serious literacy books
From famous authors etc.


Please recommend some!!!
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Re: Very serious heavy book discussion thing.
« Reply #1 on: July 09, 2008, 11:11:59 am »
what kind. ... the kind with purely literary value? of the actually interesting kind. like ... classics.
English doesn't borrow from other languages. It follows them down dark allies, knocks them over, and goes through their pockets for loose grammar.

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Re: Very serious heavy book discussion thing.
« Reply #2 on: July 09, 2008, 01:10:05 pm »
more the classics
but also the books of purely literary value.. *sighs*

this is where i regret the fact I only read heartbreaking books about drugs and people dying.
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Re: Very serious heavy book discussion thing.
« Reply #3 on: July 09, 2008, 01:22:18 pm »
ok. well. i don't know what ya'll brits read but the enjoyable 'classics' we read are like Ivanhoe and Count of Monte Cristo, Catcher in the Rye and To Kill A Mocking Bird

Frankenstein is a bit painful in the ideology and Last of the Mohicans is good once you've read it but reading it is rather painful.

Canterbury tales can be quite entertaining... i don't know if you want to jump into chaucer though... he can feel very boring as well...

I personally enjoyed both All Quiet on the Western Front and Siddhartha but i know a lot of people who didn't enjoy either...

anyway. that's all i got fer now...
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Re: Very serious heavy book discussion thing.
« Reply #4 on: July 09, 2008, 03:48:44 pm »
Thank you :)
I've heard of them all, but not read many, as I had this idea that it would narrow my mind if I read something I didn't like just for the sake of forcing myself to think that way
But I don't think thats the case anymore

And yes I do think books with a more Gothic theme would help with the powerful imagery
But also dull books would help with explaining things that are mediocre and giving them depth
Oh I don't know..
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Re: Very serious heavy book discussion thing.
« Reply #5 on: July 09, 2008, 05:05:20 pm »
read up on your edgar allen poe if you want darkness and drudgery!
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Re: Very serious heavy book discussion thing.
« Reply #6 on: July 09, 2008, 08:02:46 pm »
AHH I LOVE CLASSICSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSS


Okay.

Portrait of a Lady by Henry James
Wuthering Heights by Emily Bronte
Anna Karenina by Leo Tolstoy
Jane Eyre by Charlotte Bronte

More modern classics...

In Cold Blood by Truman Capote
Slaughterhouse 5 by Kurt Vonnegut


You could do a lot of different Vonnegut books.  I just like the aliens in that one.




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Re: Very serious heavy book discussion thing.
« Reply #7 on: July 09, 2008, 08:32:32 pm »
AHH I LOVE CLASSICSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSS


Okay.

Portrait of a Lady by Henry James
Wuthering Heights by Emily Bronte
Anna Karenina by Leo Tolstoy
Jane Eyre by Charlotte Bronte

More modern classics...

In Cold Blood by Truman Capote
Slaughterhouse 5 by Kurt Vonnegut


You could do a lot of different Vonnegut books.  I just like the aliens in that one.




Let me check out my bookshelves and let you know more later.

nice rad, kinda feminine though.

I would suggest the Grapes of Wrath, 1984, Brave New World, The Sea Wolf, Catch-22 (all 20th century, I think)
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Re: Very serious heavy book discussion thing.
« Reply #8 on: July 09, 2008, 10:22:47 pm »
AHHH THE GRAPES OF WRATH IS SUCH AN AMAZING BOOK.


Brave New World is alright.  Not a favorite of mine, but I know some people just adore it.




I thought of another!  The Red and the Black, by Stendhal.
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Re: Very serious heavy book discussion thing.
« Reply #9 on: July 10, 2008, 10:09:23 am »
ew. i hated grapes of wrath.

loved BNW though
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Re: Very serious heavy book discussion thing.
« Reply #10 on: July 10, 2008, 03:20:40 pm »
Ayn Rand... still haven't read The Fountainhead. I read Anthem though, it was like one of those books that should have been a short story, and that was a thin book as it was (boring, but possibly worth it).
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Re: Very serious heavy book discussion thing.
« Reply #11 on: July 10, 2008, 04:57:48 pm »
i liked the fountainhead, it was hard to stick to tho.
hrm, I'd definitely suggest the oldies,

the decameron by boccaccio (its interesting, i think it was the 14-somethings and its set during the black plague. some weird stories in there)
the dialogues of plato by (duh) plato (I saw the apology of socrates recited by the amazing yannis simonides, if you ever have the chance i would definitely suggest it)
shakespeare, no matter how over-rated he is his work comes up a LOT in any sort of english what-have-you.
the ramayana, either in the epic poetry verion or in a more prose version. its interesting.
dare I say it, the bible. it is really interesting as literature, me and my english teacher had many an (after-school) discussion about it.

more modern type things:

1984, as sold has already suggested (loooove it)
to kill a mocking bird, as also already suggested by burning_sands...
Life of Pi by Yann Martel (its interesting, somewhat religious undertones- the main character is christian, hindu, and muslim all at once- but an interesting story nonetheless. i want to be on a life boat in the middle of the pacific with a tiger, a zebra, and orangutan, and a hyena)
As I lay dying by William Faulkner (weird, hard-to-read book but just. weird. only word for it, really)
all of roald dahl's short stories (looking for more dark tings? go to these, fo shizzle)
the perks of being a wallflower (short but interesting anyway)
gandhi on non-violence, edited by thomas merton and preface by mark kurlansky (i've just started reading it, its interesting)
if you had any interest in greek or roman times try the greek way by edith hamilton. incredibly flowery writing and you have to read it over a good three times to understand exactly what she's saying, but its beautiful. shes also the sister of the actress who played the wicked witch of the west.
if you had an interest in art history I'd suggest the rape of the masters: how political correctness sabotages art. i love how he bashes the art historians, its awesome.

i have a lot more but i think i should cut it short lmao.

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Re: Very serious heavy book discussion thing.
« Reply #12 on: July 10, 2008, 09:14:53 pm »
Ugh.  Ayn Rand.  One of my least favorite authors ever.

Blech.




All of Jane Austen's novels, btw.

Pride and Prejudice especially!

Oh, that Mr. Darcy...
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Re: Very serious heavy book discussion thing.
« Reply #13 on: July 10, 2008, 09:18:51 pm »
Siddhartha

and second the Bible so you can understand what the fuck half the world thinks
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Re: Very serious heavy book discussion thing.
« Reply #14 on: July 10, 2008, 09:53:36 pm »
lol i love how like, my english teacher miss strobel was forced into being a jehovas witness as a child. shes like, the coolest person I know and the least stereotypically jehovas witness I have ever met (she obviously isnt one anymore) and she knows the bible back and forth.

it really does come in handy, and if you look at it from a very un-religious standpoint it can be interesting.

plus if you get to know it well you can yell back at those people who say the bible says no gays that in the same passage it also tells you not to eat shrimp, or whatever. i love proving people wrong in terms of the bible. its funny to watch their faces shrivel up like a shrinky-dink as I remove the only foundation to their debate right from underneath them.
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